The Trump Thread..

edited January 2017 in conversations
Figure we can all post our Trump shit here instead of multi threads.. :)

I'll start off with this..

Trump believes he lost the Popular vote due to illegal Immigrants voting!.. lmao


  • I like this one From CNBC . Trump asks why we can't use Nuclear weapons..

    "Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can't we use them," Scarborough said on his "Morning Joe" program.
  • Totally. I'm so sick and tired of all of those liberal fuckheads.
  • nuck all of you!
  • and nuke, too!

  • ^ friend just sent that via messenger, did chuckle :D
  • via a friend on another forum -
    Over the past couple weeks I've been doing a lot of deeper reading that all seems to connect together in extremely troubling fashion. It's becoming obvious that Russia "hacked the election" in ways that make the DNC's email servers into a complete sideshow. Here's a good quick backgrounder on one substantial piece of the puzzle.

    The lowdown: SCL/Cambridge Analytica (now believed to be operating in part, if not fully, with the cooperation or at the explicit direction of Russian foreign intelligence) has a database of psychological intelligence on at least 40 million individual US Facebook users, based on psychological profiling that accurately determines highly operable personality aspects, which it sold to the Trump campaign under the direction of Steve Bannon. It's additionally believed that Russian-fronted hackers illegally accessed FB user data, with the very obvious presumed goal of feeding that same data into this same psychological analysis engine.

    SCL Group, whose stated purpose is "behavioral change communications," (if you weren't already creeped out) used this data to not only create but far more critically target largely Russian-made fake news at those who would be most susceptible to it. It knows not only the geographical location but also the political alignment, susceptibility, income levels, motivation level, extroversion/introversion, and who knows what else about these individuals. And that's just by mining through organically-created user data. Your "likes" alone provide them an almost complete picture... they don't even have to tell you.

    Now, those same techniques are of course not going to be suspended because the election is over. For example, it now appears as if Trump is fully intent on advancing his portrayal of undocumented immigrants as the villain underclass bogeyman of society. Those communications, of course, will be targeted at those most willing to hear it, repeat it, and argue on its behalf so that as this entire thing goes to shit, people start to know exactly who to lay the blame at, because it's being virtue-signalled throughout their network of trust. Ideas self-reinforce from there.

    I somehow doubt we'll ever fully understand what's been done and what is being done, but it's starting very much to sound like a deep endgame. I remember when conspiracy theories used to be harmless and fun. Now we're in a position where Marketing research poses existential risks to freedom.

    If the Trump campaign felt a bit like Brexit, by the way, it's worth noting that the Brexit campaign also hired Cambridge Analytica. Of course, it's widely suspected that the Russians were deeply invested in Brexit, as well... [loop back to top]

    (It's also probably worth noting that Cambridge was also heavily infiltrated by Russian agents in the years during and after WW2. That's where they recruited Kim Philby, among other things.)
  • ^^^^^ I always wondered why I have a Putin poster in my bathroom..Now I know!
  • ^^ i'm not sure i buy all of that. yes, russia has an online team out there mucking things up (and i visit places where i an quite positive they post things daily).

    i think an even easier explanation about what's happening these days is that government is not working (on both sides of the atlantic) and people are voting for something different - the opposite. also, social media sucks (i have no idea why people waste their fucking time on facebook but it clearly is eroding culture).
  • ^^^ Tinfoil hat?
  • Zaphod Beeblebrox
    He was briefly the President of the Galaxy (a role that involves no power whatsoever, and merely requires the incumbent to attract attention so no one wonders who's really in charge, a role for which Zaphod was perfectly suited).
  • edited January 2017
    there was a reply from someone else to that one -
    Thanks for the interesting post.

    I agree completely with the impact SCL/Cambridge Analytics had on the election but disagree about the depth of Russian involvement in this. I'd be wary of using sacked Louise Mensch from Murdoch-owned heat st as a reliable source for anything. That article seemed more a weird kind of deferential defence of Thiel & Palantir as much as it was a critique CA. Thiel is a board member of Facebook, vocal Trump supporter and should be held accountable as much as anyone for conflict of interests.

    Incidentally, although the company name is 'Cambridge' it's based in London and run by a Nigel Oakes, a TV advert executive. Insinuating any links to the Philby-esque world of Oxbridge spooks from the name alone is misleading.

    Maybe you've read this article already How the Trump Campaign Built an Identity Database and Used Facebook Ads to Win the Election but I think it paints a more detailed and accurate depiction of how 'Project Alamo' was created — aggregating RNC/Tea Party/Trump Mailing + Experian/Datalogix/Epsilon/Axciom Corp for over 220m identities and 4-5K datapoints on each. This couldn't have been achieved without Facebook's social graph and reach.

    The fact that Kushner and Bannon were intimately involved in managing this project is important. Their goals included massively depressing voter turnout through targeting negative campaigns, dictating Trump's itinerary for maximum impact, optimising fund-raising and several other key strategies.
    Joel Winston

    Trump’s animated “super predator” political advertisement was delivered to certain African American voters via Facebook “dark posts” — nonpublic paid posts shown only to the Facebook users that Trump chose.
    Statistical models from Cambridge Analytica also dictated Trump’s travel itinerary. The locations of Trump’s campaign rallies, the centerpiece of his media-centric candidacy, were chosen by a Cambridge Analytica algorithm that ranked places in a state with the largest clusters of persuadable voters.
    So, up to this point I definitely agree with you, CA & Facebook had a huge (defining?) impact on the election. When you consider that despite all the hype, Trump's turnout was historically incredibly low — it was just Hillary's was even lower. It's obviously easier provide people with a justification not to vote, than to enthuse them enough to line up for hours to exercise their democratic right.

    However, it's also pretty clear that whilst there have been plenty of disturbing links (Manafort, Flynn etc etc) uncovered which connect Russia to the Trump administration there has also been a huge tendency to assume, without evidence, that any event which feels counter to some presupposed American 'values' must therefore, somehow, have been instigated by an external agent. In this election that agent has almost always meant Russia.

    This may make for a more intellectually satisfying rationale for such events to the American psyche but without solid evidence it is counter productive in it's refusal to address the—even more concerning—reality. For, as long the finger is pointed exclusively at Russia, self-examination doesn't occur and denial remains. We can see this manifested in the current lack of introspection being shown by the DNC and the vacuum of effective opposition.

    So I think it is more important and useful to consider that maybe this occurred without the need for some malevolent foreign power to have intervened. In fact, maybe this is just how the system which we have collectively built now functions when operating as intended.

    Let me put it this way (whilst the implications are truly disturbing) SGL/CA are essentially a profit-motivated apolitical companies that sell technology enabling political parties to manipulate their voting populace with a precision and reach never seen before. They rely on other 3rd party companies to aggregate the data on those individuals and predominantly Facebook—which allows advertisers to target their audience segment by, for example, ethnicity—to disseminate that analysis. This is all pretty standard stuff to any media buyer that defines a strategy for targeted ad spending.

    I think the statement that most accurately reflects the true motivations and the impact it had on the outcome of this election is this.
    Joel Winston

    “I wouldn’t have come aboard, even for Trump, if I hadn’t known they were building this massive Facebook and data engine,” says the Trump campaign Chairman Steve Bannon. (Bannon is also a Board Member of Cambridge Analytica.) “Facebook is what propelled Breitbart to a massive audience. We know its power.”
    TL;DR The people flying this plane are home-grown US White Supremacists, not some Russian puppet master.
  • Trump may have photoshopped his hand larger in an image he's hung in the white house...
  • wtf is this war on immigrants? does the guy know anything about our history? holy moly...
  • No see cuz they're brown and "don't assimilate"
  • Figure we can all post our Trump shit here instead of multi threads.. :)

    Good idea @blueshead … quarantine him :!:
  • …I keep hearing these headlines and thinking, really!?! :/
  • edited January 2017
    wtf is this war on immigrants? does the guy know anything about our history? holy moly...
    Yes :!: One of his older relatives needs to take him to one side and explain…!

    "Trump executive order prompts Google to recall staff"
  • Defying Trump, Twitter feeds for U.S. government scientists go rogue
  • This Muslim ban is going well then... jebus!
  • it's "very nice", you know? oi vey...
  • ^^ 16 attorneys general disagree with the order by now, apparently

    And the Judicial Branch is fired, too! Y'all are fucked. And, fired! FIRED.

    My fucking god...I need to invent new swear words right now.
  • edited January 2017
    George Orwell’s ‘1984’ Is Suddenly a Best-Seller

    “We’ve seen a big bump in sales,” Mr. Burke said. He added that the rise “started over the weekend and hit hyperactive” on Tuesday and Wednesday morning. Since Friday, the book has reached a 9,500 percent increase in sales, he said.

    He said demand began to lift on Sunday, shortly after the interview Kellyanne Conway, an adviser to Donald J. Trump, gave on “Meet the Press.”

    In defending a false claim by the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, that Mr. Trump had attracted the “largest audience ever to witness an inauguration,” Ms. Conway used a turn of phrase that struck some observers as similar to the dystopian world of “1984.”

    When asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” why Mr. Spicer had said something that was provably false, Ms. Conway replied airily, “Don’t be so dramatic.”

    Mr. Spicer, she said, “gave alternative facts.”

    In the novel, the term “newspeak” refers to language in which independent thought, or “unorthodox” political ideas, have been eliminated. “Doublethink” is defined as “reality control.”

    So? I guess we get to add Trumpspeak? Defined as fuck you, I'm always right!
  • edited January 2017
    Acting Attorney General Says Justice Department Won’t Defend Trump’s Ban
    On Refugees, Travelers.
    WASHINGTON ― In a stunning announcement Monday afternoon, acting Attorney
    General Sally Yates said the Justice Department won’t defend President
    Donald Trump’s executive order blocking all refugees and certain foreign

    “I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court
    remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always
    seek justice and stand for what is right,” Yates, an appointee of former
    President Barack Obama, wrote to Justice Department lawyers, the New
    York Times first reported. “At present, I am not convinced that the
    defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities
    nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful.”
    This is good news.. Not everyone in Washington is kissing Trumps ass.

    Edit--- Within hours Sally Yates was fired..
    Hours later, she was fired. The White House said Yates "has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States" and portrayed her actions as political.
  • edited January 2017
    It's her right to stand up to Trump about this, but it's not her job, to do so. She serves at the leisure of the president to carry out his orders. Just like any job.

    So, her being fired isn't really as shitty as one might think. What's being said around DC is that if you aren't aligned with the presidents views you need to get out. This is how it's supposed to work.

    She can be an activist on her own time. It shouldn't be happening on taxpayer dollars.

    I'm still happy she did this. She had to have known she was going to be fired, too.
  • edited February 2017
    Environmentalists Are the "Greatest Threat to Freedom," Says Trump Adviser.

    This story was originally published by The Guardian and is reproduced here as part of the Climate Desk collaboration.

    The environmental movement is "the greatest threat to freedom and prosperity in the modern world," according to an adviser to the US president Donald Trump's administration.

    Myron Ebell, who has denied the dangers of climate change for many years and led Trump's transition team for the Environmental Protection Agency until the president's recent inauguration, also said he fully expected Trump to keep his promise to withdraw the US from the global agreement to fight global warming.

    Trump has already replaced the climate change page on the White House website with a fossil-fuel-based energy policy, resurrected two controversial oil pipelines and attempted to gag the EPA, the Department of Agriculture, and the National Parks Service.
  • i think the good thing about trump is that people are finally waking up to the fact that the US is the most victimized nation on the planet.

  • Wheee.. More Alternative Facts!

    "Feb 3 2017, 12:16 pm ET
    Kellyanne Conway Cites ‘Bowling Green Massacre’ — Which Never Occurred!"
  • edited February 2017
    Feb 4 2017, 11:12 am ET
    Homeland Security Suspends Implentation of President Trump’s Travel Ban.
    Those individuals with visas that were not physically cancelled may now travel if the visa is otherwise valid," the State Department said, adding that it is working with the Department of Homeland Security to enforce the move.

    On Saturday, normal air service resumed following the judge's decision, which Trump blasted in a series of tweets as "ridiculous."
    Trump himself expressed his dismay at the court ruling in a series of tweets on Saturday morning, saying "the opinion of this so-called judge, which essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country, is ridiculous and will be overturned!"

    I'd like to say to our European friends, That we do have in the USA some checks and balances to keep this Madman down . It's going to be a long haul,though..

    He will be finding out that He can't wave a Pen and sign a piece of paper to make it his way...
  • edited February 2017
  • Trump Launches Pre-emptive War on Truth, Declares All Negative Polls “Fake News”
  • hehe ^ surprise! "if you don't say something i agree with, you are wrong".

    SNL skit is great :D
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